Tucker Carlson vs. Mike Huckabeeby Charles Carreon
2/26/26
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Corrections: 1. "Spy" = Jonathan Pollard; 2. met Pollard in U.S. embassy, not Israeli; 3. "Israel," not "Egypt" gets all the land.TranscriptHi folks, it's February 26, 2026. I'm
Charles Carreon and I am here to deliver
the verdict. Today we're going to be
talking about the encounter between
Tucker Carlson and Mike Huckabee in the
diplomatic center in the Tel Aviv
airport. And Tucker's presentation of it
starts out with his loud complaints
about the thuggery of the intelligence
agents there at the airport who made him
and his staff miserable and basically
threatened them with not being able to
leave the country and uh interrogated
them at length about the very interview
that they had conducted. Like there really
isn't a free press there, that's for sure.
And Tucker put Mike Huckabee on hotspot
several times. I think the first
question that he landed him with was,
"Will you ask Israel to stop sheltering
pedophiles, indicted fugitives and sex
criminals who flee the United States and
take refuge in the state of Israel from
which they apparently have no fear of
being extradited?" And so he just point
blank said, you know, are you willing to
go and talk to your friends here in the
Israeli government and ask them to
return some of these sex criminals? And
his response was, and he looks
very patriarchal now, he grew a nice
little gray rug on his face, and so he looks like he's
kind of thinking of himself as a
patriarch here. And then when you hear
him, there's no question about it. And
so he was completely unhelpful. He
basically said, "No, I wouldn't do
that. I don't have any objection to it.
Sure, fine. Just flip send them all
back. But adopting no
personal interest, showing no compassion
for the fact that these are people who
have victims in the United States who
are waiting for justice. And h
he's really good. Huckabee is really
good at claiming not to know stuff. He
just does it with this manner that's
like I can't know everything and you
know, I just don't happen to know that.
But you know, Tucker's all prepared with
the facts and feeds them to him and
tells him the one about the Israeli
diplomatic core guy,, or at any rate
important guy in Vegas. He goes and
commits some kind of sex crime. At least
he's indicted for it. And then he flees
to Israel. I'm not giving all the
details. It was all in the news. I mean,
many of us read it. You probably did.
But not Huckabee. And you just can't get
Huckabee to rise to debate. Nope. Nope.
Don't know anything about that. Can't
can't express an opinion about something
if I can't verify the facts myself. He
very loyally dodged. He deploys again
and again. And basically then he says,
"Yeah, it's up to the Department of
Justice." You know, like apparently
he hasn't heard that Pam Bondi is
protecting dozens, maybe hundreds of
identified sex criminals who were known
to her and Kash Patel through the
Epstein files. And he's completely naive about what
this Department of Justice is doing.
He's like ambassador leave it to the
DOJ. Then Tucker asked him about the 200
dead journalists that have
been killed by the Israel Defense
Forces, the IDF, the I think of them as
the Einsatzen group because the Einsatzen
groupin were the particular Nazis who
were charged with exterminating Jews in
Eastern Europe and you know they seem to
have adopted the same policies, seem to
adopt the exact same tactics. IDF
clearly is an army seeking to
exterminate. Many of us expect that they
will resume that effort and pursue it
in alternative forms. But in any
event when asked about the 200 dead
journalists his response response that
they weren't really all journalists that
lots of them were terrorists and
that was shown and proven and I just
really have a hard time just intuitively
I mean if you were a terrorist, right, they
might even know your face, would
you go out there on the front lines and
wear a press pass or would you rather do
what they usually do which is hide in
the shadows, and shoot from secrecy, and
retreat back into the tunnels. I thought
that was the methodology for terrorism.
I didn't think hanging a press pass
around yourself and standing right out
there where the snipers are plugging
away, that just doesn't seem like a
terrorist tactic to me. I mean, what's
the point? But he took that line
and of course we know that's just a
talking point that is put out by the
Netanyahu government and is
just a lie. Real journalists are
being killed. Totally dodged the
question, didn't even answer it
effectively. Then he asked him why he
sought clemency for, and I
don't even remember this guy's name, the
most famous spy for Israel [Jonathan Pollard] who gave away
precious military secrets and was
indicted and was serving I believe a
life sentence certainly longer than he
did serve because his pals including
Mike Huckabee went to bat for him and
asked that he be given clemency. But
when asked about this, it's like, you
know, hey, God been in prison a long
time. I figured things were better for
him. And then Huckabe
met with him in the Israeli [U.S.] embassy. Met
with him twice and met with him and he's
like, "Oh yeah, cuz I you know, his wife
died, says Huckabe, his wife died." And
you know, I said I I I expressed my
condolences. And then he asked if he
could meet me personally to express his
thanks. So we just had an official visit
at the embassy. Nothing secret about
that because you know the embassy is a
public place. There's marines
everywhere. You know it's just porous.
You know what happens in the embassy is
known to all. I Carlson didn't confront
him on the absurdity of that and and the
fact that secret meetings are held at
the embassy all the time and that the
CIA often operates out of the embassy
and has its own office there you know
and certainly what they are doing is not
known to the public. asked him if he'd
uh
what what his opinion was about the the
IDF killing children, you know, and he
was very specific, you know, 14year-old
boy. And uh and um you know, Hakabe's
approach was simply, well, you know, if
they're out there endangering the lives
of IDF soldiers, then um you know, well,
let God sort them out. Well, he didn't
say let God sort them out, but that's
basically what he said. He he just put
it on God. literally said, "Well, you
know, if if they that's the situation,
then, you know, God help him, you know."
So, it doesn't sound like Hakabe was
going to help him at any rate. And God,
you know, kind of thinly represented
there in the Middle East. We just don't
see his hand in operation. You know, if
it that's the hand of mercy doesn't seem
to be there. And I thought his
compassion was repellent. He often tried
to pretend like he really cared about
everybody. And I mean very preacherly
and lawyerly to the point of like wa say
all the right words and espouse all the
uncompassionate positions. He parroths
Bible wisdom uh in support of Israel's
right to be there um and own this land.
And it's at this point that Tucker gets
really interesting and focuses on
something that I think, you know, we
should should all think about, which is
why, first of all, why is the United
States, just to put it very simply,
damned financially and militarily
generous with
the state of Israel when the United
States is in a tough financial
condition? Oh well, that's the perfect
opportunity for Huckabe to booster
support
the chief and Trump has made it all
better. Our economy is so great now we
have nothing to worry about. And oh, and
he raises Tucker raises the issue. Well,
well, you know, basically if we initiate
a war with Iran, which only 20% of
Americans want, basically because
Netanyahu is demanding it, what's it
going to do to our economy when Iran
closes the straight of Hormuz? Well,
that won't affect us at all, says Hak,
because Trump has made everything better
because we have energy independence.
Tucker's like, "You think America's sets
oil prices worldwide is you think Saudi
oil production being taken out of, you
know, Emirates production? You know, he
names off these Gulf States, you know,
is you you you think that we can just
bounce over that up, you know, it's all
good with him. You know, he just get out
that MAGA flag and and he's comfortable
there. Nothing to fear. War? No, no
problem. No problem. Just have that war,
you know." He's like, and Net, you know,
doesn't want the war. And then he plays
all these cute little games that it's
like, you know, we don't want war. Why
would I want war? He says, you know,
I'll be right here on the front lines.
You know, it's like, yeah, under the
Iron Dome, dude. You know, we know. It's
like, you have everything lined up in
your head in a way that uh is just
perfect for Mr. Netanyahu. I'm sure that
he is watching this interview with total
approval. And
so it's great to be Israeli.
I mean, from the perspective of your
free health care, you know, and all of
the other social benefits, the excellent
infrastructure that is all being paid
for by American tax dollars. It's a
really good deal to be an Israeli. So
Hucker says, "What's it take to be one?"
Well, let me cut to the chase. Hakabe
never is clear at all. This is if you're
talking about immigration like keeping
in and letting in the right people and
keeping out the people who were not
supposed to be Israelis. His his
definitions do no good. He said it could
be either due to your ethnic origin or
due to your language or due to your
religious belief. But if you have the
right ethnic origin, which somehow
strangely enough in Netanyahu's case is
Eastern European
ability to speak Hebrew until he learned
it as a part of the Israeli regimen,
which was to recreate, rebreathe life
into a dead language called Hebrew,
which had been completely supplanted in
European fury by something called
Yiddish, which has now been
extinguished. So the linguistic
connection is non-existent. It's like
really just been created after the fact
as part of dressing up the state of
Israel as historically entitled to the
land that it is actively stealing. And
of course we know that uh you know in
the in the latter part of the interview
I mean everybody's heard it. The big
headline is that Huckabe would be just
fine with Egypt [Israel] taking over all the land
that is designated in the Bible as
having been theirs. You know, a rank
absurdity and and he just goes along
with it. So, we know that being Israeli
and being the nation of Israel from his
point of view is the most advantaged
citizenship and nation that you could
have. And there's no definition for how
you get to be an Israeli that really
makes any sense at all. And there's
nothing that legitimizes Israel as a
nation except for the fact that the
United Nations in Declaration 42, I
believe it was, forgive me if I'm wrong,
but in any event, in a declaration made
by what? The major powers who won the
war against Germany and Japan. They were
the ones who made that happen. And why
did they create the state of Israel? So
it could take the place of the exiting
British and French forces that until
that time had kept a colonial grip on
the area and in order to deal with what
happened in the Middle East, which is
that these nations remanifested their
authority and they had to be countered
on the part of Western American and
European forces. The Arab states, the
new Gulf states who are emerging in
their power had to be countered with a
powerful military force, a government
force and that is the state of Israel.
And whether that was the intention from
the very beginning or just evolved into
the strategy, I could not tell you. But
clearly at this point that is what has
occurred is that Israel is not only the
counterweight but now during the Trump
administration has become the launching
pad for expansionist American military
activity which the next stage of god
forbid maybe the attack on Irma and
about that as I said hucks no problem uh
it'll it'll cause us no economic hiccups
and um it'll it just what has to happen.
You know, just what has to happen. And
Israel's special status with respect to
the United States is, I think, the thing
that Tucker harps on the most. shows us
that the American ambassador to Israel
is completely on the side of Israel's
expansionist tendencies and will have
nothing to the contrary to say in fact
will be an agent for convincing people
in the United States that we should
continue to coddle Israel and its
citizens even as it has turned into a
clearly racist state on some bizarre
basis of who is entitled to live there.
Engaging in an ethnic cleansing campaign
against the native peoples who
definitely lived there for at least
hundreds of years before and taking that
ethnic cleansing to the level of
attempted genocide. If we think of
genocide as the completed act of
actually exterminating a peoples and not
just the act of intending to do so. And
so I see Huckabee as a
corrupt, foolish man, impressed with his
own sense of holiness and gentility. And
it is a very sad thing really to see a
man's mind turned into an agent of evil
and yet appearing grandfatherly, gentle,
kind, presenting an attitude and words
of compassion. So I would just say not
that my you'll ever hear it from me
but you ought be thinking about what you
going to tell your maker about this
you're pulling down here dude because if
you seriously believe you're going to
meet him
if I were you I would not be too
comfortable about things. All
right. And that's the verdict.
Tucker Confronts Mike Huckabee on America’s Toxic Relationship With Israel
Tucker Carlson
Premiered Feb 20, 2026 The Tucker Carlson Show
The Mike Huckabee interview, and the truth about America’s deeply unhealthy relationship with Israel
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Why We Were Interrogated in Israel
We're about to play you an interview we did with US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabe two days ago in Israel. In general, it's never worth talking about the backstory behind an interview.
It's kind of not the point. It makes it about the interviewer, not the person being interviewed for
one thing. For another, it's not that interesting most of the time. Um, and for another, it's kind
of off the record. you know, the other person hasn't consented to you telling the story. So,
in general, we don't do that. Who'd want to hear that? Let the interview speak for itself. But in
this case, we want to tell you just a few things about how this interview came about because they are pretty interesting, revealing, and now weirdly relevant apparently. So, this interview with Mike
Huckabe came about a couple of weeks ago um on Twitter. One of our producers showed me, he said
something to the effect of, "You're talking to Middle Eastern Christians, Tucker Carlson. Maybe you should talk to me. Why don't you come do an interview?" And I paused for a minute.
I thought in the past about trying to interview Mike Huckabe, whom I've known for over 30 years and worked adjacent to at Fox and I had mixed feelings about it. Um, mostly because it's hard
if you're me to interview Mike Huckabe because of just the personal affect. to my cuckabe is jovial,
comes off as friendly. He's a grandfather when annoyed. I can be nasty in interviews. And so
it's it takes a lot of self-control to interview someone like Mike Huckabe. Not not cuz I hate him,
but because it's hard to ask him tough questions and not come off as a jerk, which I often am. So,
but I thought in this case, yeah, I should definitely do this. Um, for a bunch of different reasons. mainly the United States is moving toward a big war, a real war with Iran,
a regime change war. Um, the biggest war we've had since the invasion of Iraq in the spring
of 2003. And Israel is driving that. We are doing this at the behest, at the demand of the
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. So, it seems like now is the time for more Americans to understand the dynamic between the US and Israel and to call attention to that. And for another,
Huckabee's behavior in the last year in Jerusalem as the ambassador has been very very striking. He
famously had a meeting with the most damaging spy in American history. Um, and why did he do
that? He hadn't been asked uh by anybody up until two days ago, why did you do that? So, I I wanted to be able to ask him that. Um, and so we accepted and then began the usual negotiations
about when and where the interview would take place. And we were constrained because we weren't expecting this. We wanted to do it quickly, but we had tons of travel. So, we threw them a date,
them being the American embassy, uh, we can do it on this date. And they were very accommodating. And then the question became, well, where do we do it? And maybe a Christian holy site. We said,
we've got to get in and out really quick. Got to be back to do a bunch of other interviews, but we've got this time frame. They said, "Well, why don't you do it at the US embassy or maybe we
set that?" Great. US embassy. So, the US embassy is about an hour 55 minutes from the big airport
in uh Israel, Bengarian. So, we said, "Okay, what about security?" Now, at this time, the Israeli
government, the prime minister included, were attacking me in this show. Netanyahu suggested
I was a Nazi, uh, for example. And so, we thought, you know, how about security? Obviously,
um not because the Israeli government necessarily would do something bad, but because there are a lot of people in Israel who think because they've been told, you know, that I'm an anti-semite or
a Nazi or want to kill Jews, this kind of crazy overstatement. Um all untrue, obviously. Uh but
it would be good to have security. And I should say, uh having done interviews on six out of seven
continents over 35 years, I'm not very security conscious at all. never really feel uncomfortable, but this seemed like a a prudent thing to do. So, we were told by the embassy spokesman, "No,
we're not going to provide security." And so, we said, "Okay, I guess we'll get private security,
but could we get someone from the embassy to ride in the car with us from the airport to the
interview?" And we were told, "No, could we get what they call a control officer, just an American with us, an offic, you know, in an official capacity as a embassy employee with
us?" No. quote, "For legal reasons, we can't do that." So, I thought, "Well, that's very strange."
And then they said, "But instead, we're turning you over to the Ministry for Foreign Affairs,
MFA, and they're going to arrange everything in Israel." Well, this was within 24 hours of the
Deputy Foreign Minister, Sharon Haskell, releasing a video calling me an anti-semite and an enemy of Israel. This was the person who the embassy was telling us was going to handle all of our travel.
So it was at this point that I just called I called the spokesman from for the US embassy in
Israel and I said okay I'm an American citizen responding to an invitation from the American
ambassador to Israel and by the way I'm the son of US ambassador so I have some sense not an expert obviously but I have some sense of how this works and I think that the US ambassador has discretion
to send somebody from his office to the airport to accompany someone in. I think that's right. And
if it's not right, tell me what law you're talking about, what legal reason you're talking about that would prevent that. And now you're sending me over to a government official who's been calling me a
Nazi. That's the person in charge of getting us to the embassy. Like, what is going on here? And
the embassy spokesman, who's totally nice, said, "Well, this was the decision of someone called David Brownstein. He's the DCM, the number two guy in the embassy." And I said, "Well,
put him on a text exchange. Like, what is going on here?" And so Branstein got on and didn't answer
the question, but basically said, well, okay, let's just do the interview at the airport in the diplomatic reception area at the airport. Okay. I said, um, we're going to be flying in from Europe,
uh, and we had to be in and out really quickly, so at great expense, we chartered a plane, which I never do cuz I'm cheap. Um, but we did. And so then I said to them,
"Okay, I want to send you uh the flight information, tail number, flight number, route,
um and I want you to pass that on to the Israeli military just so you know they don't mistake us
for an Iranian drone or something." I mean, not to be paranoid, but again, this is probably the most violent country in the world, Israel. Is there a country in the world where a higher percentage of
the population has held a gun or shot someone? I mean, I don't know the answer, but this is a country uh famously waging a sevenfront war with all of its neighbors, you know. So,
this is also the country that bombed the USS Liberty knowing, we know this from NSA intercepts,
that it was an American ship. So, don't, you know, just send the military our flight information and
uh, you know, we can all just sort of know it's on the record and we can all calm down a little bit.
No, they said the US embassy said, "No, this is your flight is not a a matter of concern
to the Israeli military." I said, "Okay, now now you're making me uncomfortable. Isn't the
airspace of Israel the purview of the Israeli military? Aren't they in charge of maintaining
the integrity of their airspace? When you fly over the country of Israel or any country, its military
keeps track of you because that's their job. So, why wouldn't you send our flight information to the Israeli military? You're making me nervous. I sent this exchange. I took a a screenshot of it
and sent it to a bunch of people, including in the US government um because I'm not a paranoid person and I'm not a jumpy person. I said, "Is this weird behavior?" Yeah, it's really weird behavior. All
of them said that. So, I got pretty aggressive and just said, "Look, you got to do this." Okay. and
they to their credit got back to us and said yes we will we will do that but I just thought that
was completely bizarre and menacing by the way now at the same time and I think this is relevant
certainly it goes to motive I was attempting to set up a meeting as I have been for the past 3 months with the prime minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu who I've dealt with a lot in the past
um and who denounced me as a Nazi uh in public a member of the woke reich And why was I trying
to do that? Not an interview. I knew he wouldn't sit for an interview. Um but I wanted just to meet with him in person. One, to show that I'm willing to go to Israel. I don't hate Israel as a country.
Um but two, just to to say directly to him, this is bad. This should be deescalated. This kind
of rhetoric doesn't help anybody. Calling people calling me specifically a Nazi and an anti-semite
when you know that I'm not. By the way, if I was, I would just admit it. I've said many times, I think anti-semitism is immoral. It's against my religion, just as hating any group on the
basis of their bloodline is immoral.
So I really pushed hard for this meeting and I
called a lot of people who know him and who are in regular contact with him. In fact, I went to
go see some of those people directly. Please, can you help me get a sit down for 5 minutes
with Benjamin Netanyahu and I probably called or met with six, seven, eight, maybe more people on
this question. People in official capacities, people in the Israeli government. I know I know a number of people in the Israeli government, people in Israel, a friend of mine in California
who knows him. I mean, I really really tried and I did so for two reasons. Um, one, because there was
a threat to my family, uh, the Israeli government and Netanyahu himself tried to punish two members
of my family. I won't be more specific, but actually punish two members of my family because he, as he has said in public many times, believes in blood guilt. Amalecch. You know, when someone
commits a crime against you, you punish not just him, but his family, his bloodline. There's no idea that's less western than that, more anti-Christian than that. Christians reject that.
Um Netanyahu doesn't. That's why he's talking about Amalcch. And he was going after my family,
literally. Uh so I felt very threatened by that. But moreover, I think it's bad for my country to
have people using that kind of language. Round them up, bring them to the camps, gas chambers,
Nazis, anti-semitism. It scares the heck out of people. It makes people crazy and hysterical. And
certainly in my case, none of that is true. I hate collective punishment. I hate attacking people on
the basis of their bloodline. I hate anti-semitism and anti-white racism and all of this, any kind of
racism, period. And I've said that a lot. So using that kind of language against someone who is not
fundamentally your enemy who just in my case I want Christians in areas controlled by Israel to
be treated with dignity to have rights and I don't want the US government involved in a war a regime
change war with Iran. Those are my priorities and I've said them out loud. I have no secret agenda.
So to attack me as a Nazi for saying that suggests a total unwillingness um to compromise. You know,
anyone who doesn't agree with us 100% must be destroyed. His family must be attacked. My family
um and must be written off as a Nazi. Well, when you do that, it makes people hysterical.
It increases the temperature to a point that, you know, someone's going to get hurt if you keep talking that way. And it's just bad. It's bad for the United States. it's bad for the world. So,
I wanted to deliver that message. Um, I finally wind up wound up talking to a guy called Yorum Hazonei who is an Israeli who famously organizes uh the American conserv
national conservatism conferences. And I said to him, look, you're having a national conservatism
conference in Jerusalem uh this summer. You asked me to speak at the first, I think the
first national conserv conservatism conference in the United States and I did. Obviously, I believe in national conservatism, America first. I think every nation should put its own people
first. That's why you have governments. Um, and I would like to speak at this one. And moreover, I would like you to ask your friend Benjamin Netanyahu to meet with me. And we had this sort of
long back and forth. And it was, "No, you cannot speak at the National Conservatism Conference because you're an anti-semite." "No, I'm not." I said, "Yes, you are," he said. And I said, "Well,
I really would like to speak to BB to kind of deescalate this." and he said, uh, it would not be
in his political interest to meet with you. That's almost verbatim what he said. Uh, therefore, no.
So then I realized, you know, you're dealing with people who are unreasonable, who are inflexible,
who are in fact fanatical. Uh, and then add to that, of course, that my tax dollars are paying
them. You know, it's all pretty distressing. So that was the backdrop um behind our very brief
and highly intense trip to Israel. So we show up on Wednesday, fly in from Europe again at great
expense. Um and show up at the diplomatic terminal of Bengurian airport where this interview is going
to take place which is bizarre in itself. Filthy building. The windows are so dirty in the terminal
you can't see out them barely. There's like exposed drywall. The whole thing is depressing and
grim. There's litter outside. Like what is this? This is the diplomatic terminal in Israel. Um I
thought that was very strange having been in a lot of diplomatic terminals. I've never seen a rattier one. We go in and Huckabe's there and of course he's totally friendly as he always is. um very
very friendly guy and uh cheerful and we sort of chat and the whole place is filled with these guys
in t-shirts, thuggish looking guys in t-shirts who are some kind of security. So we do the interview,
you're about to watch it. Um it's very long at 2 and a half hoursish and I try my hardest to be
friendly. Uh I think I kind of succeeded. You can judge for yourself. Um, but you I really got the
sense and again you can decide as you watch it that uh Huckabee was not well able to answer any
of the questions um but also not really in charge. You really got the feeling of a guy sort of trying
his best to to repeat the talking points but very constrained like unable to say certain things not
because those things might harm the interest of the US government. He was happy to attack,
for example, the US military and say they're more brutal than the Israeli military. Okay. Um but
unwilling to say certain things because they might reflect poorly on the Israeli government. And you
sort of thinking about this for a second. You're like, "Wait, you're the US ambassador. You're our representative to a foreign country. Why is your red line criticism of that country? Shouldn't you
be representing us?" And it was very obvious he was representing the Israelis. Obvious. And again,
you can judge for yourself. But anyway, so we do this interview. It was cordial. And at the end,
uh, we're set to fly out. We have a time. We have to get out. And the plane is sitting right outside. And we're ready to go. And for some reason, the Israelis still have our passports.
There are five of us um there. And four of us are flying out on this plane. One's flying out
commercial with our gear. So my business partner and I were standing there. We we've never left
the airport, never went anywhere. But our two producers have spent the night in the night before in Tel Aviv, and they're called into rooms and given the third degree. Now, keep in mind,
they're about to get on a plane and leave. In fact, we're late. We have to get out of there. We have a slot to get out. And security, whoever this is, won't won't let them go. So, I don't really
know what's going on at this point. I'm like, "Where are our guys? We got to get out of here." So, one of them comes out and he says, "That was the weirdest experience of my life. They
asked me questions about the interview. Who did you speak to?" Keep in mind, this was like 8 ft from where we did the interview. Well, the US ambassador Mike Huckabe,
what did you talk about? Why did you ask those questions? Was it a hostile interview? Of course,
everything in the diplomatic terminal is taped. Everything in Israel is taped. It's a police state. It's a surveillance state. Obviously, you go to Israel, they put software on your phone.
Everybody knows this, okay? They're constantly spying on you more than probably any other country. And so they know the answers to these questions, but they're asking my producer like,
"Where do you work? How many people work there? Do you go to the office? Where is the office? What
are their names?" They're doing like an intel op and humiliation exercise on my producer.
This isn't security. We're leaving right now. And they're holding his passport. The interrogator is
holding the passport in his hand as he's asking these questions. So he's telling me this and I'm I said, "This is the most outrageous thing I've ever heard. Puckabe's gone by this point. You're
an American citizen who's just had a conversation with the US ambassador and some thug is demanding
details of that conversation and I hope you didn't answer." And he's like, "No, I I didn't. I don't
know what to say." Meanwhile, our last guy, our the youngest man who was traveling with us, our
last producer is still in a room being questioned. So, I pull over one of the guys and said, "I I we got to get out of here." So, I don't know what this is about. It's outrageous. And you know,
there's nothing I can do about this point, but we got to go. And this woman comes up to me and says, "Look, let's just go. We're going to bring you to the plane and he'll come later." I said, "No, it's
my producer. He's being interrogated. ask totally over-the-top, fully inappropriate questions that
have nothing to do with security at all. You know, pull up your website, show us your text exchanges
with other people on your staff, what what are your politics like? And again, what did you say to
the US ambassador and what did he say back to you? Those are not relevant questions if you're trying
to keep your country secure. Those are intel questions and they're over the top. And I said, I
want this guy out now. Let's go. You know, we got to go. Oh, and they said, "No, no, just leave him here. We'll bring him to the plane later." Twice they told me that. Just leave your guy behind. No,
I don't think so. So, I was enraged by this. Um, get on the plane, we get a text from a reporter
who somehow knew that this had happened. I have no idea how. I had no interest in publicizing it,
actually. Um, there was, you know, a a long trail that showed that the US embassy had been
coordinating against us in a in a public relations battle before we even got there. You know,
they were leaking that we we demanded to do it at the airport because we were afraid to go into Israel. We're cowards. Okay. We're cowards, right? Um, and so I just said to the reporter by text,
you know, they pulled my guys into a room interrogating them. This is outrageous, etc., etc., etc. The interesting thing is I never heard from Huckabe or anybody to this moment
from the US embassy about what security did to my producers. They didn't ask us and instead Huckabe
went out and called me a liar. So, it raises again the question, who exactly is Huckabe working for?
We're American citizens in a foreign country. He's our ambassador. He represents our country. We pay his salary, but he's taking the side of the foreign government without even calling to say,
"Hey, what happened to you at the airport? Did you get hassled? Did your guys get hassled?" No. He just immediately repeats their lies. without even consulting us. So like what are we looking
at here? We're looking at the reality which is if you're an American in Israel, you can be certain
that your government will take the side of the Israeli government and not your side. And really,
is that so different from the experience of Americans in the United States? Can you be sure
that your government will take your side over the Israeli government? No, of course not. will always take the Israeli government's side over yours. And that's the core problem. Even if if you support a
war with Iran, I think we really the most pressing issue for Americans is that we kill the Ayatollah
or whatever, you still have a fair expectation that your government because it is yours,
you pay for it. It exists to serve you and for no other reason. and you have an expectation that your government will take your side against a foreign government. But the daily lived reality,
the obvious truth visible to every single American is that's the opposite of reality. In fact,
if you criticize Israel in your country, your government will work to censor you. If there's
a standoff between you and BB, you know whose side your government's going to take? BB's side. That
is not sustainable. That is too humiliating. It's too clearly an inversion of the natural order.
Your government exists for you, not for a foreign government. But that's not how we live in this
country or in Israel. So that's what we learned. And one last thing, the Israelis apparently went
may probably with the help of Mike Huckabe went to uh the surveillance tape inside the diplomatic
terminal and pulled some clip and they're of course getting all their little bots online to promote it of me with my arm around somebody to show that actually I'm lying about what happened.
That person was our driver who drove us from the plane to the terminal, a short drive. Very nice guy, good guy, Israeli guy. And um right when we arrived and he said,
"Could I get a picture?" Of course. He's a nice man. So I just put my arm around him, took a picture. That's what that is. That was before the interview. It was before uh our
producers were hassled by the thugs um and asked ridiculous questions. It was before any of this
happened. So that's just uh another installment of the propaganda war. I thought we'd give you the backstory on that.
So, with that, here is our interview with
Ambassador Mike Huckabe. I hope it's informative. ...